Marco Cáceres di Iorio

Honduran Coups, Vaccines… All the Same

El Mago by Felipe Burchard

For many years when I would travel to Honduras, I would ask my friends and relatives why things were the way they were in that country (I was born there but emigrated with my parents to the United States when I was 4 or 5 years old). It seemed that no matter what Honduran governments did, the country was never able to pull itself out of its misery of extreme poverty and corruption. But everybody just gave me the standard line… “Oh, you don’t live here, so you just wouldn’t understand.” Well, that response annoyed me. But I figured, hey I’m only a kid, so what do I know.

But as I grew up, I continued to ask the same question, and each time I heard that same response I grew less and less willing to accept it. By the time I reached about 40, I thought, “You know, I’m an adult, I’m going to learn everything I can about Honduras, more than my friends and relatives in Honduras, so I’ll never again have to hear that old response.” So I did. But even then, when I could out-debate any Honduran about any of Honduras’ social, political and economic problems/issues, I was still subjected to that same response, because I didn’t physically live in Honduras… Even though I metaphorically lived, ate and breathed Honduras daily for more than a decade.

In 2009, there was that famous coup in Honduras against the government of President Manuel Zelaya. The conversations and debates I had with people make those I have today about vaccines pale in comparison. They were every bit as intense and contentious, particularly after I wrote a book called The Good Coup: The Overthrow of Manuel Zelaya in Honduras.1

Just about everyone told me I had no right to write such a book because I was not an expert on Honduras. In other words, I wasn’t qualified… particularly since I didn’t live in Honduras and didn’t know the “real” situation there. I dealt with this by noting that I thought my physical separation from the country actually served to give me a healthy perspective that most within the country didn’t have because they were so deeply stuck in all the political muck and mud slinging that they couldn’t see or think clearly.

I got hit from both sides. The left was angry with me for calling the coup “Good”. After all, how could I call any coup good. The right was angry with me for calling what happened a “Coup.” After all, according to them, it wasn’t a coup but rather a “constitutional transition of power.”

It reminds me a lot of the current debate on vaccines. It seems that in many cases, you either have to be completely “with us or you’re against us.” No middle ground. And if you’re not with us, then you’re probably not qualified to have an opinion, and so you might as well just shut up. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude discourages any kind of civil, reasoned conversation or debate. This is precisely what’s happening on the issue of vaccines and vaccination policy. There are the “pro-vaxxers” and the “anti-vaxxers.” There does not appear to be a willingness to accept that there is a huge group of people who find themselves somewhere in between or don’t know enough to be anywhere on the spectrum.

My carry-home point here is to stress, regardless of your position on vaccines, anyone who is passionate about researching deeply should always ignore those who tell them that they’re not qualified, or don’t have the right, to express their views on the topic, because they’re not an “expert” and don’t know the science. Sorry, but science isn’t that hard. If you have a sincere interest in the broad issue of vaccines, and you dedicate yourself to learning about it, you’ll probably end up knowing more than most medical doctors and scientists and public health bureaucrats who are either uninterested or are so stuck in their narrow paradigm that they do not have a good perspective.

Plus, many doctors and scientists may be scared—really scared to even begin to contemplate the possibility that what little they were taught about vaccines in school or in a laboratory, in their textbooks and professional journals, is… dead wrong. As Harris L. Courter and Barbara Loe Fisher wrote in their book DPT: A Shot in the Dark:

As the West German physician Wolfgang Ehrengut suggested in one of his studies (1980), it may be that doctors have a negative bias against vaccine reactions (or failures), an unwillingness to believe, because ‘what must not be, therefore, cannot be.’ It must not be true because, they think, what will we do if it is true?.2

Do not listen to the Dr. Paul Offits of the world who say things like:

I think it is not important to have a debate about the science with someone who clearly doesn’t know the science. … I don’t think it is fair to have a debate with two sides when only one side is represented by the science.3

There are always two sides to a story, particularly in science. You always have to wonder about those who claim otherwise.


1 Cáceres di Iorio M. The Good Coup: The Overthrow of Manuel Zelaya in Honduras. Aug. 27, 2010.
2 Coulter HL and Fisher BL. DPT: A Shot in the Dark. May 1, 1991.
3 Goodman A. Inside the Vaccine War: Measles Outbreak Rekindles Debate on Autism, Parental Choice & Public Health (video). Democracy Now Feb. 5. 2015.


2 Responses to “Honduran Coups, Vaccines… All the Same”

  1. Patricia Sullivan

    Marco, Your sage words apply to more than Honduras or vaccine issue. So much of life can be argued. So many issues polarize and divide. I’m publishing a book about the H1N1 flu entitled VIRAL: A TRUE STORY OF EPIDEMIC FLU, FEAR AND FAITH. I’ve gone done the vaccine rabbit hole so many times, it has delayed finalization of my manuscript. I am also a fervent child, animal and environmental advocate and this exact same debate rears its ugly head in those camps, too. One current issue is captivity of cetaceans (whales, dolphins, porpoises) vs “wild and free”. I am in the middle, having friends on both sides of the argument. I know how you feel, honestly I do. Thanks you for your posts. Best, Patti Sullivan



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